Independent current-release reproduction
This is an independent field reproduction on the current stable Desktop release. It overlaps #5240, #5928, #5363, and the canonical #3277. I am filing it because the exact cross-owner topology still reproduces on stock 0.5.14 after the earlier shared-agent mention work in #4913. Please consolidate it into the preferred tracker if appropriate.
Describe the bug
On stock public Buzz Desktop 0.5.14 for macOS, one community member cannot select an agent owned and run by another community member in a shared private stream channel, even though all of the following have been independently verified:
- both humans are current members of the channel;
- the agent is a current channel member with role
bot;
- the agent's kind-0 identity profile resolves;
- the owning host reports the agent's effective response policy as
respond_to=anyone;
- the target is a real managed/
buzz-acp agent running on another machine, not a stale same-name profile.
The Desktop mention picker shows the channel's human members and the current user's locally managed agents, but omits the other owner's bot member. Searching the exact unique agent name does not produce a selectable row. Restarting Desktop and re-saving/restarting the agent's access policy do not change the result.
Because Desktop provides no selectable identity, the composer cannot attach the target agent's exact signed recipient p tag through the supported UI. This is a picker/discovery failure independent of whether the agent's model provider currently has capacity to answer.
Steps to reproduce
- User B creates and runs a managed
buzz-acp agent on machine B.
- Set the agent's response policy to Anyone.
- Add User A, User B, and the agent to the same private stream channel; the agent has role
bot.
- On machine A, run the stock public Buzz Desktop 0.5.14 as User A.
- Verify through authenticated relay membership/profile reads that the agent is a current bot member and its kind-0 profile resolves.
- Open the channel composer, type
@, and search the agent's exact unique display name.
- Observe that the agent is absent while the human members and User A's locally managed agents are present.
- Fully restart Desktop and re-open the channel. The result is unchanged.
Expected behavior
An external channel-member agent whose effective policy authorizes the viewer should appear in autocomplete. Selecting it should create a User-A-authored kind-9 event carrying the agent's exact p tag. The agent runtime should remain the final authority on whether to accept and answer the event.
Version and platform
- Buzz version: Desktop 0.5.14, plain public build
- OS: macOS
- Topology: hosted community; private stream channel; two human owners on separate machines; target managed/
buzz-acp agent hosted on the other owner's machine
Logs / additional context
The shipped/current source path matches the symptom:
The fail-closed behavior when authorization evidence is missing is sensible. The defect is that a legitimate, authorized, current bot member lacks a complete supported path into the proof consumed by Desktop.
Suggested end-to-end acceptance test:
- From a non-owner Desktop, the external bot member appears in the active channel's picker.
- Selecting it emits a human-authored kind-9 event with the exact agent
p tag.
- The remote harness receives the event and replies when provider capacity is available.
- No local managed-agent record, target private key, or duplicate local runtime is required on the invoking machine.
Private channel UUIDs, relay URLs, pubkeys, event IDs, and participant/agent names are intentionally withheld from this public report. Sanitized additional evidence can be provided if maintainers need it.
Independent current-release reproduction
This is an independent field reproduction on the current stable Desktop release. It overlaps #5240, #5928, #5363, and the canonical #3277. I am filing it because the exact cross-owner topology still reproduces on stock 0.5.14 after the earlier shared-agent mention work in #4913. Please consolidate it into the preferred tracker if appropriate.
Describe the bug
On stock public Buzz Desktop 0.5.14 for macOS, one community member cannot select an agent owned and run by another community member in a shared private stream channel, even though all of the following have been independently verified:
bot;respond_to=anyone;buzz-acpagent running on another machine, not a stale same-name profile.The Desktop mention picker shows the channel's human members and the current user's locally managed agents, but omits the other owner's bot member. Searching the exact unique agent name does not produce a selectable row. Restarting Desktop and re-saving/restarting the agent's access policy do not change the result.
Because Desktop provides no selectable identity, the composer cannot attach the target agent's exact signed recipient
ptag through the supported UI. This is a picker/discovery failure independent of whether the agent's model provider currently has capacity to answer.Steps to reproduce
buzz-acpagent on machine B.bot.@, and search the agent's exact unique display name.Expected behavior
An external channel-member agent whose effective policy authorizes the viewer should appear in autocomplete. Selecting it should create a User-A-authored kind-9 event carrying the agent's exact
ptag. The agent runtime should remain the final authority on whether to accept and answer the event.Version and platform
buzz-acpagent hosted on the other owner's machineLogs / additional context
The shipped/current source path matches the symptom:
maind8281b9c,list_relay_agentsstill queries only kind 10100.The fail-closed behavior when authorization evidence is missing is sensible. The defect is that a legitimate, authorized, current bot member lacks a complete supported path into the proof consumed by Desktop.
Suggested end-to-end acceptance test:
ptag.Private channel UUIDs, relay URLs, pubkeys, event IDs, and participant/agent names are intentionally withheld from this public report. Sanitized additional evidence can be provided if maintainers need it.